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HILLMAN CAR CLUB
OF SOUTH AUSTRALIA INC



From: lord_rootes [lord_rootes(at)yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 1:34 PM
To: HillmanCars@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [HillmanCars] Painting Question

Hi All,

I'm in the process of taking the Hillman engine apart, cleaning and painting parts, and then putting it all back together with new gaskets.  I'm wondering what I should do with the inlet and exhaust manifolds.  They are very rusty.  I looked at some manifold paint at the local car parts store and it says you have to bake it in an oven after application (and not to use an oven that is used for cooking).
As that is not an option should I just wire brush them as much as possible or can I paint with engine enamel?  If I do paint with engine enamel will it burn off or just discolour?  Is it a fire hazard to use engine enamel on manifolds?

Thanks,

Alan M.



From: BBrick3513(at)aol.com
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 3:38 PM
To: HillmanCars@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [HillmanCars] Painting Question

Hi Alan
I've used a zinc coating from a spray can on the exhaust on several cars and it hasn't burned off after several thousand miles.  Engine paint does pretty good on the inlet, because it doesn't get that hot.  I just wire brushed everything real good and then put phosphoric acid on.  I use a product called Rust-Lock Metal Prep, made for West Marine.  It's the phosphoric acid that does the trick though.  Hope this helps a little.

Bud

58 Hillman Mins
61 Hillman Estate Wagon



From: Keith Johnson [keiths55(at)bigpond.net.au]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 5:39 PM
To: HillmanCars@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [HillmanCars] Painting Question

Alan

Clean them up and get them powdercoated.  Same finish as Jaguar used on their exhausts.
Check the little flap thing in the exhaust that alters the heat going to the "hot spot".  They often are seized up.  I just put them in the position that prevents too much heat getting to the inlet manifold.  They were not one of Lord Rootes better ideas.

  ... (snip) ...

Keith



From: LINDEN M MALKI [importautosbdo(at)juno.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 8:52 AM
To: HillmanCars@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [HillmanCars] Painting Question

There should be high heat enamels that don't have to be baked; you may have been looking at something that is an epoxy or something.  Look for the "high heat" designation on the label.
Linden

From: lord_rootes [milesfamily(at)telus.net]
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 12:48 PM
To: HillmanCars@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [HillmanCars] Re: Painting Question

Thanks Linden,
I'll have to look again.  Will regular engine enamel hold up ok?
–Alan M.

From: Vic Hughes [v.hughes(at)austarmetro.com.au]
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 8:22 PM
To: HillmanCars@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [HillmanCars] Re: Painting Question

Alan,

No it won't, regular engine enamel copes with the kind of temps your block water (and oil) cooled block reaches, maybe 200 C at the most.  Exhaust system paints need to cope with much hotter temperatures – up to 1500C.

This is the kind of stuff you want.  VHT seems to be sold around the world.
http://www.nfauto.co.uk/vht_exhaust.htm
http://www.racenet.net/exh/vht-high-temp.php

Cheers, Vic



From: lord_rootes [milesfamily(at)telus.net]
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 1:37 AM
To: HillmanCars@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [HillmanCars] Re: Painting Question

Thanks Vic,
I notice it says it should be heat cured and they suggest a bbq.
Not a bad idea!  Beats using the oven.
Thanks,
Alan

From: LINDEN M MALKI [importautosbdo(at)juno.com]
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 7:14 AM
To: HillmanCars@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [HillmanCars] Re: Painting Question

No, the "high heat" enamel is rated at about 600deg and is specifically made for manifolds, barbecues, etc.  Most engine paint is rated at about 300deg, but I found some in the shop with 500deg.  I think Krylon makes a good high heat paint, and VHT as well.  Read labels, but I know that I've seen some that appears to be suitable.
Linden
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