HILLMAN CAR CLUB
OF SOUTH AUSTRALIA INC

Tech Tips:
Clutch Adjustment
HILLMAN CAR CLUB
OF SOUTH AUSTRALIA INC


The important part of this discussion is towards the end. The first part is included only for completeness.

From: Miles Family [milesfamily(at)telus.net]
Sent: Monday, 9 June 2003 3:05 PM
To: hillman@can-inc.com
Subject: "Hillman - " Gearbox problems

Hi All,
As I mentioned a few months ago I was having problems selecting 1st gear in my Minx (non synchro) when at a complete standstill and the clutch seemed to be making a fair bit of noise when pedal released in neutral, disappearing when pedal depressed.  I had the clutch replaced and now it has gotten worse!  Not only am I still having trouble with 1st, it also grinds going into reverse and when downshifting into 3rd (except if I double-clutch).  Everything seems fine when I first start driving but gets bad after driving for a while which seems kind of weird to me.  Also the noise is still there but considerably quieter.  I took the car back and the fellow readjusted the clutch and thought he had fixed the problem.  Before I call him back again I just thought I'd ask you guys if you have any ideas.  To my mind it sounds like a clutch problem more than a gearbox problem although he did mention the gearbox was low on oil when they did clutch.  I was thinking of ordering a gearbox overhaul kit from Alpine West Midlands (it includes bearings, oil seals, synchro(baulk) rings, layshaft, needle rollers and gaskets) and doing the job myself.  Do you think this will solve the problem ?
Any feedback is greatly appreciated as usual.
Thanks,
Alan
'63 Minx Saloon



From: Terry Allen [hmag(at)ozemail.com.au]
Sent: Monday, 9 June 2003 6:46 PM
To: hillman@can-inc.com
Subject: Re: "Hillman - " Gearbox problems

This message forwarded by the Hillman List.

Hi again,
          If the noise actually disappears when the clutch is depressed, the noise is definitely in the gearbox internals & more than likely one of 2 things front bearing or cluster shaft bearings/shaft about a 90% chance it'll fix your problem, providing you've eliminated the other variables.

          Bye for now, Terry Allen



From: David Rosicke [d.rosicke(at)snet.net]
Sent: Tuesday, 10 June 2003 2:16 AM
To: Terry Allen; hillman@can-inc.com
Subject: "Hillman - " Gearbox problems

Throw-out bearing.  Once the grease gets warmed up, it is providing less protection, hence the increased noise.

Ajustment should help the releasing.

If not, then you have the same problem I have had with my SHO the T.O bearing has eaten some of the fingers off of the Clutch Cover.

Dave R



From: Import Auto Supply [importautosbdo(at)juno.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 10 June 2003 9:06 AM
To: d.rosicke(at)snet.net
Cc: hillman@can-inc.com
Subject: "Hillman - " Gearbox problems

These cars use a carbon bearing with no grease!  Also, most Lockheed hydraulics do not have much if any adjustment; the wear on the bearing does the adjusting.  The carbon part of the bearing is supposed to wear at a rate proportional to the wear on the disc.  Did you replace the bearing?  We have learned the hard way that the bearing and the disc need to be replaced together or the geometry is wrong and it doesn't work right.



From: Terry Allen [hmag(at)ozemail.com.au]
Sent: Tuesday, 10 June 2003 7:33 PM
To: hillman@can-inc.com
Subject: Re: "Hillman - " Gearbox problems

This message forwarded by the Hillman List.

Hi again,
          Absolutely the Hillmans have only the carbon bearing, which is 'self-greasing' for want of a better term.  We've seen people use grease on them & it can cause a real high-pitched squealing DO NOT use grease on them

          Bye for now, Terry Allen


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